Dave & Karen are fans of Howard Jacobson, PhD.  In addition to his fine work as a coauthor on several fine books (Proteinaholic, Whole), Howard is a visionary and luminary of lifestyle medicine.  

His podcast is called Plant Yourself.  We encourage you to subscribe!

Here is his interview with Dr. Donohue, released February 2018.

http://plantyourself.com/transforming-the-system-of-medical-care-with-david-donohue-md-pyp-255/